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		<title>BC Election 2009&#8230; Polls Close&#8230; continuing coverage tonight</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 13 May 2009 03:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chrisale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Generally&#8230; I&#8217;m already depressed about the possible result. But I&#8217;m going to remain optimistic. I&#8217;ve put this post in the categories of Climate Change and Peak Oil because I think the coming decade, 2010-2020, will be pivotal, crucial, in the &#8230; <a href="http://www.murkyview.com/archives/2009/05/12/bc-election-2009-polls-close-continuing-coverage-tonight/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Generally&#8230; I&#8217;m already depressed about the possible result.  But I&#8217;m going to remain optimistic.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve put this post in the categories of Climate Change and Peak Oil because I think the coming decade, 2010-2020, will be pivotal, crucial, in the development of BC and of humanity as a whole as both of those challenges come to a head.</p>
<p>Woohoo!  8:19PM!  the NDP is winning 3-1 with like 40 votes counted! <img src='http://www.murkyview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>8:22PM&#8230;. holy crap!  8 to 2!  It&#8217;s gonna be a landslide!!</p>
<p>8:27PM&#8230; OK, so as the early returns come in I just want to include a prediction of our vote in the our riding of Alberni-Pacific.  I think our riding will be closer than it was last election when Scott Fraser of the NDP won, but I do think that the result will favour the incumbent Scott Fraser.  Ms. St. Jaques will likely do well in Ucluelet where she was mayor as well as pockets in central Port Alberni and the rural Alberni Valley.  Mr. Fraser will carry the majority of Alberni polls though and will do better in the Coombs and Errington areas.</p>
<p>8:33PM&#8230; 23 to 17 for NDP</p>
<p>8:38PM&#8230; 35 to 34 for Lib</p>
<p>8:43PM&#8230; at this early time, Scott Fraser is leading in our riding.  <a href="http://results.elections.bc.ca/GE-2009-05-12_Candidate.html">You can see the results as they come in to Elections BC here.</a></p>
<p>8:53PM&#8230; Nanaimo looks to be going NDP at this point. There&#8217;s nothing out of <a href="http://results.elections.bc.ca/ed/GE-2009-05-12_Parksville-Qualicum.html">Parksville-Qualicum</a> yet.</p>
<p>8:59PM&#8230; I will be surprised if CTV (which is who I am watching as far as elections coverage) doesn&#8217;t call the election for the Liberals at 9:00PM or very soon after.</p>
<p>9:03PM&#8230; There you go&#8230; CTV has projected a Liberal government&#8230;. interestingly&#8230; the CBC has not projected a winner yet.</p>
<p>9:06PM&#8230; Joy McPhail on CTV is wondering aloud about the results in the Northern Interior expressing her surprise that the early results are so pro-Liberal considering the devastation of the forest industry.  I have two words for her that explains everything&#8230; Carole James.</p>
<p>9:09PM&#8230; Have the biases of one station and others ever been clearer?  The CBC still continues to hold its election predictions while the CTV is practically gleeful in its interviews of happy Liberals and sad NDP&#8217;ers.</p>
<p>9:15PM&#8230; the first results for STV are starting to trickle in and they are looking very bad.  I&#8217;m not surprised&#8230; this is going to be a long and depressing night indeed.</p>
<p>9:18PM&#8230; and finally the CBC is now reporting a Liberal Majority government.</p>
<p>9:19PM&#8230; on a positive note, Scott Fraser looks to have wiped out Dianne St. Jaques in Alberni-Clayoquot.  He has double the votes (2400 to 1400) right now.</p>
<p>9:23PM&#8230; the BC-STV results <a href="http://results.elections.bc.ca/REF-2009-001.html">are looking very poor&#8230;<br />
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<p>% of valid votes province-wide in favour of BC-STV	40.33% (need 60)</p>
<p>Number of electoral districts with 50% or more of the valid votes cast in favour of BC-STV	3 (need 70)</p>
<p>9:34PM&#8230; It&#8217;s going to be a pretty upset office tomorrow.  And nervous&#8230; now that the election is over, the budget will finally be released for Vancouver Island University.  We don&#8217;t expect good news.                                            </p>
<p>9:50PM&#8230; Probably the most depressing statement, and most accurate, that I&#8217;ve heard on the analysis tonight was just now from the CBC panel.  In both the election and the referendum on STV, the voters of BC look to have strongly voted for the status quo.</p>
<p>That just destroys a lot of hope that I had for the future.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to keep monitoring it, but needless to say, I&#8217;m very disappointed&#8230;. and not terribly motivated to blog about it now.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           <!-- Social Bookmarking Reloaded BEGIN -->
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		<title>Advanced Poll results from North and Central Vancouver Island</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 04:16:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chrisale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I just downloaded the advance voting results available from the Elections BC Website. Here are the results from the North and Central Island after 4 days of advanced voting: Parksville-Qualicum: 14.5% Comox: 14.2% Cowichan Valley: 13.4% Alberni-Pacific Rim: 11.9% North &#8230; <a href="http://www.murkyview.com/archives/2009/05/11/advanced-poll-results-from-north-and-central-vancouver-island/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just downloaded the advance voting results available from the <a href="http://www3.elections.bc.ca/index.php/election2009/#advance">Elections BC Website.</a></p>
<p>Here are the results from the North and Central Island after 4 days of advanced voting:</p>
<p>Parksville-Qualicum: 14.5%<br />
Comox:  14.2%<br />
Cowichan Valley: 13.4%<br />
Alberni-Pacific Rim:  11.9%<br />
North Island: 10.7%<br />
Nanaimo-North Cowichan: 10.6%<br />
Nanaimo: 9.5%</p>
<p>Not sure if there is anything to read into those numbers or not&#8230; but there they are.  </p>
<p>The moral of the story.  Get out and vote!  Don&#8217;t Vote?  Don&#8217;t Complain!<!-- Social Bookmarking Reloaded BEGIN -->
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		<title>Christy Clark on CKNW on STV&#8230; vote for real change!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 03:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chrisale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#8217;t generally agree with Christy Clark, or anyone on CKNW really&#8230; but on this I think she has really hit the nail from the head&#8230; and most of all, she speaks from experience as a former MLA. I&#8217;ve recorded &#8230; <a href="http://www.murkyview.com/archives/2009/05/07/christy-clark-on-cknw-on-stv-vote-for-real-change/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t generally agree with Christy Clark, or anyone on CKNW really&#8230; but on this I think she has really hit the nail from the head&#8230; and most of all, she speaks from experience as a former MLA.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve recorded her editorial and created an MP3.</p>
<p>Download and listen to it here.</p>
<p><a href='http://www.murkyview.com/images/ChristyClarkSTV.mp3' >Christy Clark Editorial May 7 2009 on STV</a></p>
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		<title>Reasons to vote for BC-STV 2</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 07 May 2009 12:37:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chrisale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Stop the gerrymandering of ridings: One of the big crutches of the No side is the notion that big ridings have a lot of pitfalls. Well, here is one big reason why they could be a good thing. Anyone of &#8230; <a href="http://www.murkyview.com/archives/2009/05/07/reasons-to-vote-for-bc-stv-2/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stop the gerrymandering of ridings:</p>
<p>One of the big crutches of the No side is the notion that big ridings have a lot of pitfalls.  Well, here is one big reason why they could be a good thing.</p>
<p>Anyone of the baby boomer generation will likely remember the story of <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_McCarthy">&#8220;Gracies Finger&#8221;.</a></p>
<blockquote><p>In 1982, McCarthy was suspected of interfering in the re-drawing of the electoral boundaries of her Little Mountain constituency, to include an appendage of a wealthy westside Vancouver area, thus helping ensure her electoral success. This appendage and subsequent scandal became known as &#8216;Gracie&#8217;s Finger&#8217;. The actual area in question was between 16th and 33rd Avenues in Vancouver around the Arbutus Street corridor.[1]</p></blockquote>
<p>This sort of advantageous redrawing happens all the time in Provincial and Federal areas.  It&#8217;s possible because the ridings, especially in urban areas, are very small and precise.</p>
<p>Under BC-STV the ridings are more &#8220;regional&#8221;, Vancouver West, or Victoria South.  So while there is certainly an ability to do the same sort of fiddling&#8230; it is without a doubt more difficult to greatly affect the fortunes of MLAs in a riding that includes so many more people, and areas.</p>
<p>And before someone says &#8220;but we&#8217;ll lose local representation&#8221;, remember, in a 4 MLA riding like ours on Vancouver Island and the Sunshine Coast, it would be very difficult for a party to elect only urban candidates as the swing votes would all be in the rural areas.  If a candidate is seen to be urban-only, then the rural folks can band together and ensure that they vote for someone who represents them&#8230; 2nd choice votes would be the key in BC-STV, sow without the presumably 2nd choices of rural candidates, it would be very difficult for all 4 candidates to be elected exclusively from urban voters.<!-- Social Bookmarking Reloaded BEGIN -->
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		<title>Try out BC STV online!</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 12:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>chrisale</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[This is really cool! Some ingenious folks have created a website that mimics a BC Election using the BC-STV system. You can select your riding, choose your candidates, and then see how your vote gets processed. I &#8220;voted&#8221; multiple times &#8230; <a href="http://www.murkyview.com/archives/2009/04/21/try-out-bc-stv-online/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is really cool!</p>
<p>Some ingenious folks have created <a href="http://bc.demochoice.org/index.html">a website that mimics a BC Election using the BC-STV system.</a></p>
<p>You can select your riding, choose your candidates, and then see how your vote gets processed.  I &#8220;voted&#8221; multiple times by going to different ridings so that I could see how my vote worked if I voted in different ways.  Make sure you click on the &#8220;All Rounds&#8221; link when you get to the results so that you can see how the votes get transferred through all the rounds.</p>
<p>It is very interesting.  And while it is clear it will take longer to have a final result under STV, it sure will be nice to have the choice and to be able to elect different foks from different parties!  It really works!</p>
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