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]]> By: chrisale http://www.murkyview.com/archives/2005/10/31/china-makes-another-grab-at-us-oil-giant/#comment-3712 chrisale Thu, 03 Nov 2005 18:26:17 +0000 http://www.murkyview.com/archives/2005/10/31/china-makes-another-grab-at-us-oil-giant/#comment-3712 Well.. I don't think you're alone in your sentiments jane. I think your sentiments are held by the vast majority of people, across all political spectrums. Again I come back to using Canada as an example, but forgive me because it is of course what I know best... Canadian politics has also, degraded to a point where we just jump from scandal to scandal and we don't actually know what the government is actually doing to "govern" Canada. It has been especially bad since the last election with the minority parliament. That's mainly why I've been supporting the NDP and why I will vote for them in the next election. They seem to be the only ones who are actually talking about issues that Canadians care about and want to have action on. Scandal and corruption are important... but they have overpowered both our governments. The publics reaction in both cases has largely been apathy. But, if it keeps going the way it's going, I think, and hope, that people will start to get fed up and demand better... and hey, if that means burning a few cars like the Muslim youth of Paris are doing, well, that might be what it takes. Well.. I don’t think you’re alone in your sentiments jane. I think your sentiments are held by the vast majority of people, across all political spectrums. Again I come back to using Canada as an example, but forgive me because it is of course what I know best…
Canadian politics has also, degraded to a point where we just jump from scandal to scandal and we don’t actually know what the government is actually doing to “govern” Canada. It has been especially bad since the last election with the minority parliament.

That’s mainly why I’ve been supporting the NDP and why I will vote for them in the next election. They seem to be the only ones who are actually talking about issues that Canadians care about and want to have action on.

Scandal and corruption are important… but they have overpowered both our governments. The publics reaction in both cases has largely been apathy. But, if it keeps going the way it’s going, I think, and hope, that people will start to get fed up and demand better… and hey, if that means burning a few cars like the Muslim youth of Paris are doing, well, that might be what it takes.

]]> By: jane m http://www.murkyview.com/archives/2005/10/31/china-makes-another-grab-at-us-oil-giant/#comment-3711 jane m Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:49:23 +0000 http://www.murkyview.com/archives/2005/10/31/china-makes-another-grab-at-us-oil-giant/#comment-3711 Yes, Canada has got to do what Canada has got to do. Anyway, I'm certainly not any expert but I've been dismayed over the last 25 years by the state of political tactics in this country. You see the resulting polarization but what started it all was Watergate and it's been payback time every since among the two warring factions (GOP/Conservatives and DEMS/Liberals. This constant warfare such as now going on regarding Plame and spouse and propaganda up the yazoo from all sides is making progress on important issues almost impossible while we are mired in more or less trivial games of "gotcha". So nothing is done about social security, energy, trade issues and obstructionism rules the day especially when it comes to the fight against terror. the issue receiving most attention continues to be abortion rights and scare tactics abound. A pox on all their houses. Yes, Canada has got to do what Canada has got to do. Anyway, I’m certainly not any expert but I’ve been dismayed over the last 25 years by the state of political tactics in this country. You see the resulting polarization but what started it all was Watergate and it’s been payback time every since among the two warring factions (GOP/Conservatives and DEMS/Liberals.

This constant warfare such as now going on regarding Plame and spouse and propaganda up the yazoo from all sides is making progress on important issues almost impossible while we are mired in more or less trivial games of “gotcha”. So nothing is done about social security, energy, trade issues and obstructionism rules the day especially when it comes to the fight against terror. the issue receiving most attention continues to be abortion rights and scare tactics abound. A pox on all their houses.

]]> By: chrisale http://www.murkyview.com/archives/2005/10/31/china-makes-another-grab-at-us-oil-giant/#comment-3708 chrisale Thu, 03 Nov 2005 03:33:14 +0000 http://www.murkyview.com/archives/2005/10/31/china-makes-another-grab-at-us-oil-giant/#comment-3708 And that makes me very pessimistic for the overall health of the world economy, because if the US, the most technologically advanced, richest, country in the world, can't get its' act together, then it might not matter how many good deeds Canada and others will do while our economic welfare is tied to the US economy. THe more I think about it, the more I am very happy that the Canadian government is making serious headway at diversifying the Canadian economy so that it is not so incredibly reliant on the US. The economic tragedies of BSE and Softwood lumber have actually spurred the notion that maybe putting all our eggs in the American basket isn't such a great idea after all. And that makes me very pessimistic for the overall health of the world economy, because if the US, the most technologically advanced, richest, country in the world, can’t get its’ act together, then it might not matter how many good deeds Canada and others will do while our economic welfare is tied to the US economy.

THe more I think about it, the more I am very happy that the Canadian government is making serious headway at diversifying the Canadian economy so that it is not so incredibly reliant on the US.

The economic tragedies of BSE and Softwood lumber have actually spurred the notion that maybe putting all our eggs in the American basket isn’t such a great idea after all.

]]> By: jane m http://www.murkyview.com/archives/2005/10/31/china-makes-another-grab-at-us-oil-giant/#comment-3706 jane m Wed, 02 Nov 2005 22:01:59 +0000 http://www.murkyview.com/archives/2005/10/31/china-makes-another-grab-at-us-oil-giant/#comment-3706 You may have noticed that American pols are totally dedicated to being reelected and will risk practically nothing if it causes them a loss of support or if there is even a mere hint of a loss of support. I'm sorry to say that pols are bought and sold IMO in this country with few exceptions. Party discipline is pretty tight. So we spoiled Americans have not heard any meaningful rhetoric regarding conservation or energy and the importance of mass transit from those who lead us nor do I expect that to change. It would be unpopular to suggest that we should sacrifice so the risk won't be taken by our noble leaders. Naysayers would only say that somehow the BIG OIL faction would profit by our sacrifice so no way, we're not gonna... We will wait until disaster is upon us and then move, maybe. And it won't matter who is leading the country. Until there is a huge price to pay for over comsumption of energy, nada will change. Same as our potential disaster called the social security system. Whoever is opposition will always buck the attempt to solve a problem because the other side might get some good reviews if a solution is found. So I'm pessimistic that we will fix this problem in my lifetime. You may have noticed that American pols are totally dedicated to being reelected and will risk practically nothing if it causes them a loss of support or if there is even a mere hint of a loss of support.

I’m sorry to say that pols are bought and sold IMO in this country with few exceptions. Party discipline is pretty tight. So we spoiled Americans have not heard any meaningful rhetoric regarding conservation or energy and the importance of mass transit from those who lead us nor do I expect that to change.

It would be unpopular to suggest that we should sacrifice so the risk won’t be taken by our noble leaders. Naysayers would only say that somehow the BIG OIL faction would profit by our sacrifice so no way, we’re not gonna…
We will wait until disaster is upon us and then move, maybe. And it won’t matter who is leading the country. Until there is a huge price to pay for over comsumption of energy, nada will change. Same as our potential disaster called the social security system. Whoever is opposition will always buck the attempt to solve a problem because the other side might get some good reviews if a solution is found.

So I’m pessimistic that we will fix this problem in my lifetime.

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