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	<title>Comments on: Superman is Sorry</title>
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	<description>Striving for perspective.</description>
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		<title>By: The Loudest Cricket</title>
		<link>http://www.murkyview.com/archives/2005/01/25/superman-is-sorry/#comment-1194</link>
		<dc:creator>The Loudest Cricket</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Ping pong&lt;/strong&gt;

SMASH and Chris Alemany are trading back and forth. For some reason, Mr. Alemany decided to link to me (personally, I think he just grabbed all of the trackbacks on SMASH's original post.) This intrigued me, so I read his...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>Ping pong</strong></p>
<p>SMASH and Chris Alemany are trading back and forth. For some reason, Mr. Alemany decided to link to me (personally, I think he just grabbed all of the trackbacks on SMASH&#8217;s original post.) This intrigued me, so I read his&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: The Indepublican</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Indepublican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2005 20:02:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm confused.  You say 

Overt Conflict and war between nations has rarely, if ever in history, led to true “freedom” and societal change towards democracy.

and

I must go for now… but suffice to say that in almost every single case where war was brought onto a people to force regime or societal change, that change eventually failed. That does not mean that intervention is automatically wrong, but it is a very strong indicator that it does not work for the long term.

Ok, where to start.  It seems you have a murky view of history.  What about Germany, Japan, India, Poland, The Czech Republic and may other Eastern European countries.  While the EE Bloc countries were arguably not freed by direct armed confrontation on their home soil, they were freed as a side effect of our cold war policy concerning the Soviet Union.  I would also include the Ukraine in this.

Suffice to say you need to obtain a better grasp on history before you make sweeping generalizations about the results or lack of results from war.  There are so many other things that can be said here, but I'll leave it at that.

Have a good day.

The Indepublican</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m confused.  You say </p>
<p>Overt Conflict and war between nations has rarely, if ever in history, led to true “freedom” and societal change towards democracy.</p>
<p>and</p>
<p>I must go for now… but suffice to say that in almost every single case where war was brought onto a people to force regime or societal change, that change eventually failed. That does not mean that intervention is automatically wrong, but it is a very strong indicator that it does not work for the long term.</p>
<p>Ok, where to start.  It seems you have a murky view of history.  What about Germany, Japan, India, Poland, The Czech Republic and may other Eastern European countries.  While the EE Bloc countries were arguably not freed by direct armed confrontation on their home soil, they were freed as a side effect of our cold war policy concerning the Soviet Union.  I would also include the Ukraine in this.</p>
<p>Suffice to say you need to obtain a better grasp on history before you make sweeping generalizations about the results or lack of results from war.  There are so many other things that can be said here, but I&#8217;ll leave it at that.</p>
<p>Have a good day.</p>
<p>The Indepublican</p>
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		<title>By: jane m</title>
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		<dc:creator>jane m</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2005 19:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In dman's defense, your entire post is an insult to Americans and started with your comment left at LT SMASH.  Pot...kettle.  If you dish it out don't be surprised when it's dished back. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In dman&#8217;s defense, your entire post is an insult to Americans and started with your comment left at LT SMASH.  Pot&#8230;kettle.  If you dish it out don&#8217;t be surprised when it&#8217;s dished back. <img src='http://www.murkyview.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:37:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dman:

I would love to hear your definition of "on your own".  How many veterans can you insult all at once?  I'd also like to here why you think doing things "on your own" is so much better than doing things "with friends"?

There is a term called "multilateralism" that we as Canadians are passionate about and that you, seem to view as a sign of weakness.  We recognize our limitations but we are first in line to do as much as we can to help.

We simply do not have the capacity, in dollars, hardware, or population, to carry out huge military operations ourselves.  We never really have.

There are only a handful of countries that can.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dman:</p>
<p>I would love to hear your definition of &#8220;on your own&#8221;.  How many veterans can you insult all at once?  I&#8217;d also like to here why you think doing things &#8220;on your own&#8221; is so much better than doing things &#8220;with friends&#8221;?</p>
<p>There is a term called &#8220;multilateralism&#8221; that we as Canadians are passionate about and that you, seem to view as a sign of weakness.  We recognize our limitations but we are first in line to do as much as we can to help.</p>
<p>We simply do not have the capacity, in dollars, hardware, or population, to carry out huge military operations ourselves.  We never really have.</p>
<p>There are only a handful of countries that can.</p>
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		<title>By: dman</title>
		<link>http://www.murkyview.com/archives/2005/01/25/superman-is-sorry/#comment-1189</link>
		<dc:creator>dman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Jan 2005 16:17:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris can you tell us ONE thing that canada has done "on their own" to ever help another country.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris can you tell us ONE thing that canada has done &#8220;on their own&#8221; to ever help another country.</p>
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